Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York, PC Reviews
May 10, 2023
I want to describe my experience with this "Doctor" and hope to find others that have been in a similar way.
I should preface this by saying that whatever ails you, Dr. Gertner has a "study" that will show that Upper Cervical treatments will cure it. I had elevated blood pressure and a pinch nerve in the upper cervical spine that was causing me pain and discomfort. Dr. Gertner was able to convince me that his treatments would fix my blood pressure and cure by bulging disc. After allowing over 16 months of treatments, I was convinced that neither was true, at least not for me. I know when people are in pain, they will try anything to alleviate the pain. This Doctor uses this to convince you to sign his form with monthly charges on your credit card. I should warn you to not let him have access to your credit card number, if you decide to find out for yourself. Pay him monthly, but not automatically give him your number.
After agreeing to treatments from Dr. George Gertner of Upper Cervical Chiropractic on August 2011 for $4,280.00, I began to pay him $357.00 monthly. It appears that this was for only 54 treatments per year, although this information was never clearly explained to me nor in the 16 months that I received treatment from him, was I ever notified that I had gone over the allotted treatment number and would begin accruing a bill that would only eventually be revealed to me when I decided to end my treatments. I was hit with a whopping $2,000.00 bill that the "Doctor" "generously" cut in half and billed my credit card nearly $1,000.00 for overage when I stopped.
In all this time, I was under the wrong assumption that the $357.00 per month I was paying was for services rendered during that particular month. The reason I assumed that is because the Doctor would tell me when I should come again. I would ask at the end of each session when I should return and was given the next recommended appointment day. With no regards to my financial situation, this Doctor took advantage of me by having me visit his office twice per week without ever once mentioning that I was over the 54 treatments.
When I finally got an itemized bill when I terminated his services, I was able to count how long it took me to reach 54 visits. I had reached 54 visits within 6 months. So for over 10 months, no one in his office or the Doctor bothered to inform me that I was over the allotted visists. I know now that this information was withheld because had I been told, he would have risked my stopping the treatments sooner. I was strung along so that I would continue to come and pay. I was only a revenue source to this Doctor.
Another reason I felt that the monthly payment of $357.00 was inclusive of each monthly treatment was because the Doctor began to charge $15.00 for missed appointments. Why would he do that, wouldn't he just deduct that from the 54 treatments. So if I missed an appointment, wouldn't I have used up one? With no clear policy anywhere, this Doctor does what he wants and changes the rules as he goes along. The patients are his victims. I know of no other Doctors office that would not want to be paid when due. Have you ever been to a Doctor that did not give you a bill after services?
Why would this particular Doctor not want to get paid right away?? Why would he wait until the end to present the Super Bill?? The answer is because he does not want you to know for fear of losing you as his patient. He may justify this anyway he wants, but it is a disgrace that a licensed professional would be allowed to practice medicine in the State of New York with such deception. The patient puts their trust in a Doctor and in this case it is misguided, because this Doctor is more concerned about money than his patient care.
If you decide to find out for yourself, notice the hard sell and the monthly "meetings" to try and recruit more "patients". Once he even was giving away a huge flat panel television, all in trying to recruit more "victims". I want to send a message to this Doctor in smalls claims court that this unacceptable. If anyone knows of soeone that has been duped by this Doctor in a similar manner, please respond to this report. Thank you.
Its amazing how one Misinformed person who as far as I know was never diagnosed with TN started this nucca crap Misinforming everyone along the way and making a ton on money talking and selling books about this. All the scumbag nucca chiro's jumped on board preying on us TN victims. How do these people sleep at night? The nucca bullshit usually starts with... pay me for the year. I found this out in White Plains and Manhattan. BUYER BEWARE!!!!
Note: James Tomasi was diagnosed in September, 2013 with a TUMOR embedded in his TN nerve sheath and the brain stem. He should have followed the usual protocol, Rhonda Tomasi OWNS Rapid Relief Solutions, which SELLS Laser and LLLT, UV and LED Light units that assist people who do not get a 100% response from UC chiropractic.
Holy Crap when does it end!
Read More http://whattimetuesday.com/about-us/
aother comments we found
Very disappointed in the treatments as well as the doctors professional and financial ethics. I didn't have any relief with the treatments after 6 mths of going 3 times a week. He is a sales person not a medical professional. He has zero compassion or understanding for people's finances and couldn't care less. The visibility into the treatment success through diagnostics was minimal, not enough to prove it works. I also went through the exact same experience with the random last payment after we had agreed upon a payment plan for the remaining balance. The doctor talks about how is making over a million dollars a year and his country club lifestyle. He lacks a genuine interest or care in the patient, I felt like a number not a person. I would never recommend him.
My comments are about unethical financial behavior of doctor Gertner. Since most patients are desperate to find help..and ready to pay for service and very vulnerable..and this situation used by dr.Gertner...I was given paper to sign-that my credit card will be charged $395.00 for coming month of services and I can stop any time. But when I stopped my visits ( after 3 month and 2 weeks)-my credit card was charged(2 weeks after my last visit)for additional $1,040.00. I called my credit card to dispute this charges...I think that any "doctors" who is doing business this way don't deserve to be called A Doctor-it should be called Dishonest businesman and all his future patients have to know about it. PLEASE DON'T SIGN ANY PAPERS AND NEVER GIVE A "DOCTOR" YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER. It's real shame that I have to write this about doctor practice. I don't want anybody to repeat my mistake!
Dr Gertner is a predator he knows that the people who come to him a desperate, that they have exhasted all traditional medical treatments and are willing to try anything at this point, he promises them that he can cure them of anything that ails them and then makes them sign a piece of paper saying that he didn't promise anything.
I called his office to find out how much an office visit was because I was desperate they quoted me 85 dollars that was steep but I could make it work I Was one of the desperate people. They also said there was a one time consult and x-ray fee of 400 dollars. I saved up and went.
He promised me he could fix everything that was wrong with me, cure my pain all of it. It was a 2 hour drive there and back a long trip and very expensive but I had my first adjustment two days later and I felt hope for the very first time. I found out that they didn't take my insurance but at 85 dollars a pop I guess I could make it work. The worst was over the 400 dollars.
I came back and was presented with a treatment plan. 5800 if I paid up front or 6000 if I paid in monthly 375 dollar installments not including todays 85 dollar "office visit fee" I asked if I could just come for some visits the Dr said no it wouldn't work that way I had to come every week 2x a week.
This would cost me almost 200 more in travel every month bringing my monthly cost up to 575 I am on disabilty I get 850 and I pay for where I live and eat and put gas in my car off of that. He didn't care. He said that was it he wouldn't see me.
It was a total scam saying that the appointments were 85 dollars. I would never have spent 400 dollars on xrays because I would have known I could not have bought a treatment plan its a bait and switch totally a scam. Really a ripoff and totally unethical. He lures you in with the 85 dollar line and then gives you the hard sell.
He is completely unethical and cares about nothing but money. Healing and helping mean absolutly nothing to this man. Buyer beware!
Dr. George Gertner AKA Upper CervicalChiropratic of White Plains White Plains New York
I want to describe my experience with this "Doctor" and hope to find others that have been in a similar way.
I should preface this by saying that whatever ails you, Dr. Gertner has a "study" that will show that Upper Cervical treatments will cure it. I had elevated blood pressure and a pinch nerve in the upper cervical spine that was causing me pain and discomfort. Dr. Gertner was able to convince me that his treatments would fix my blood pressure and cure by bulging disc. After allowing over 16 months of treatments, I was convinced that neither was true, at least not for me. I know when people are in pain, they will try anything to alleviate the pain. This Doctor uses this to convince you to sign his form with monthly charges on your credit card. I should warn you to not let him have access to your credit card number, if you decide to find out for yourself. Pay him monthly, but not automatically give him your number.
After agreeing to treatments from Dr. George Gertner of Upper Cervical Chiropractic on August 2011 for $4,280.00, I began to pay him $357.00 monthly. It appears that this was for only 54 treatments per year, although this information was never clearly explained to me nor in the 16 months that I received treatment from him, was I ever notified that I had gone over the allotted treatment number and would begin accruing a bill that would only eventually be revealed to me when I decided to end my treatments. I was hit with a whopping $2,000.00 bill that the "Doctor" "generously" cut in half and billed my credit card nearly $1,000.00 for overage when I stopped.
In all this time, I was under the wrong assumption that the $357.00 per month I was paying was for services rendered during that particular month. The reason I assumed that is because the Doctor would tell me when I should come again. I would ask at the end of each session when I should return and was given the next recommended appointment day. With no regards to my financial situation, this Doctor took advantage of me by having me visit his office twice per week without ever once mentioning that I was over the 54 treatments.
When I finally got an itemized bill when I terminated his services, I was able to count how long it took me to reach 54 visits. I had reached 54 visits within 6 months. So for over 10 months, no one in his office or the Doctor bothered to inform me that I was over the allotted visists. I know now that this information was withheld because had I been told, he would have risked my stopping the treatments sooner. I was strung along so that I would continue to come and pay. I was only a revenue source to this Doctor.
Another reason I felt that the monthly payment of $357.00 was inclusive of each monthly treatment was because the Doctor began to charge $15.00 for missed appointments. Why would he do that, wouldn't he just deduct that from the 54 treatments. So if I missed an appointment, wouldn't I have used up one? With no clear policy anywhere, this Doctor does what he wants and changes the rules as he goes along. The patients are his victims. I know of no other Doctors office that would not want to be paid when due. Have you ever been to a Doctor that did not give you a bill after services?
Why would this particular Doctor not want to get paid right away?? Why would he wait until the end to present the Super Bill?? The answer is because he does not want you to know for fear of losing you as his patient. He may justify this anyway he wants, but it is a disgrace that a licensed professional would be allowed to practice medicine in the State of New York with such deception. The patient puts their trust in a Doctor and in this case it is misguided, because this Doctor is more concerned about money than his patient care.
If you decide to find out for yourself, notice the hard sell and the monthly "meetings" to try and recruit more "patients". Once he even was giving away a huge flat panel television, all in trying to recruit more "victims". I want to send a message to this Doctor in smalls claims court that this unacceptable. If anyone knows of soeone that has been duped by this Doctor in a similar manner, please respond to this report. Thank you.
Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York, PC is a unique holistic healing center. Our staff are all dedicated to giving each patient the personalized care they need in a warm, caring environment. We understand that the vast majority of our patients have already tried every traditional medical procedure to get relief without success. The frustration of not being in control of your health and feel your life slipping away can be debilitating.
After calling and speaking with a warm and friendly assistant, we do our best to get the patient an appointment with one of our qualified doctors in a timely matter. When dealing with many specialists, it can be weeks or months to get an appointment. At UCCNY we have several highly trained doctors on staff, so we are usually able to accommodate most patient within a week.
Because the doctors at UCCNY are trained in the most advanced spinal correction procedures, they are able to give patients quick and long lasting results to some of the most severe and chronic conditions. Unlike most doctors that only treat the symptom of the problem and get temporary relief, our doctors treat the cause and can give many patients permanent relief.
My name is Dr. George Gertner and I am the owner of Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York, PC. I would like to thank you for taking the time to review Upper Cervical Chiropractic. We are able to restore the health to some of the most severe and chronically ill patients from all over the world. Make an appointment with myself, or one of my qualified doctors and see why our personalized service makes us the gold standard of chiropractic care worldwide.
At Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York, PC we pride ourselves in using the highest quality SERVICE.
We are one of only 200 NUCCA chiropractic offices worldwide. Our doctors are trained to provide relief from even the most chronically ill conditions. The staff is committed to exceptional customer service, and proud of the fact that they are part of the largest NUCCA office in the Northeastern United States.
Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York, PC Reviews
I want to describe my experience with this "Doctor" and hope to find others that have been in a similar way.
I should preface this by saying that whatever ails you, Dr. Gertner has a "study" that will show that Upper Cervical treatments will cure it. I had elevated blood pressure and a pinch nerve in the upper cervical spine that was causing me pain and discomfort. Dr. Gertner was able to convince me that his treatments would fix my blood pressure and cure by bulging disc. After allowing over 16 months of treatments, I was convinced that neither was true, at least not for me. I know when people are in pain, they will try anything to alleviate the pain. This Doctor uses this to convince you to sign his form with monthly charges on your credit card. I should warn you to not let him have access to your credit card number, if you decide to find out for yourself. Pay him monthly, but not automatically give him your number.
After agreeing to treatments from Dr. George Gertner of Upper Cervical Chiropractic on August 2011 for $4,280.00, I began to pay him $357.00 monthly. It appears that this was for only 54 treatments per year, although this information was never clearly explained to me nor in the 16 months that I received treatment from him, was I ever notified that I had gone over the allotted treatment number and would begin accruing a bill that would only eventually be revealed to me when I decided to end my treatments. I was hit with a whopping $2,000.00 bill that the "Doctor" "generously" cut in half and billed my credit card nearly $1,000.00 for overage when I stopped.
In all this time, I was under the wrong assumption that the $357.00 per month I was paying was for services rendered during that particular month. The reason I assumed that is because the Doctor would tell me when I should come again. I would ask at the end of each session when I should return and was given the next recommended appointment day. With no regards to my financial situation, this Doctor took advantage of me by having me visit his office twice per week without ever once mentioning that I was over the 54 treatments.
When I finally got an itemized bill when I terminated his services, I was able to count how long it took me to reach 54 visits. I had reached 54 visits within 6 months. So for over 10 months, no one in his office or the Doctor bothered to inform me that I was over the allotted visists. I know now that this information was withheld because had I been told, he would have risked my stopping the treatments sooner. I was strung along so that I would continue to come and pay. I was only a revenue source to this Doctor.
Another reason I felt that the monthly payment of $357.00 was inclusive of each monthly treatment was because the Doctor began to charge $15.00 for missed appointments. Why would he do that, wouldn't he just deduct that from the 54 treatments. So if I missed an appointment, wouldn't I have used up one? With no clear policy anywhere, this Doctor does what he wants and changes the rules as he goes along. The patients are his victims. I know of no other Doctors office that would not want to be paid when due. Have you ever been to a Doctor that did not give you a bill after services?
Why would this particular Doctor not want to get paid right away?? Why would he wait until the end to present the Super Bill?? The answer is because he does not want you to know for fear of losing you as his patient. He may justify this anyway he wants, but it is a disgrace that a licensed professional would be allowed to practice medicine in the State of New York with such deception. The patient puts their trust in a Doctor and in this case it is misguided, because this Doctor is more concerned about money than his patient care.
If you decide to find out for yourself, notice the hard sell and the monthly "meetings" to try and recruit more "patients". Once he even was giving away a huge flat panel television, all in trying to recruit more "victims". I want to send a message to this Doctor in smalls claims court that this unacceptable. If anyone knows of soeone that has been duped by this Doctor in a similar manner, please respond to this report. Thank you.
Its amazing how one Misinformed person who as far as I know was never diagnosed with TN started this nucca crap Misinforming everyone along the way and making a ton on money talking and selling books about this. All the scumbag nucca chiro's jumped on board preying on us TN victims. How do these people sleep at night? The nucca bullshit usually starts with... pay me for the year. I found this out in White Plains and Manhattan. BUYER BEWARE!!!!
Note: James Tomasi was diagnosed in September, 2013 with a TUMOR embedded in his TN nerve sheath and the brain stem. He should have followed the usual protocol, Rhonda Tomasi OWNS Rapid Relief Solutions, which SELLS Laser and LLLT, UV and LED Light units that assist people who do not get a 100% response from UC chiropractic.
Holy Crap when does it end!
Read More http://whattimetuesday.com/about-us/
aother comments we found
Very disappointed in the treatments as well as the doctors professional and financial ethics. I didn't have any relief with the treatments after 6 mths of going 3 times a week. He is a sales person not a medical professional. He has zero compassion or understanding for people's finances and couldn't care less. The visibility into the treatment success through diagnostics was minimal, not enough to prove it works. I also went through the exact same experience with the random last payment after we had agreed upon a payment plan for the remaining balance. The doctor talks about how is making over a million dollars a year and his country club lifestyle. He lacks a genuine interest or care in the patient, I felt like a number not a person. I would never recommend him.
My comments are about unethical financial behavior of doctor Gertner. Since most patients are desperate to find help..and ready to pay for service and very vulnerable..and this situation used by dr.Gertner...I was given paper to sign-that my credit card will be charged $395.00 for coming month of services and I can stop any time. But when I stopped my visits ( after 3 month and 2 weeks)-my credit card was charged(2 weeks after my last visit)for additional $1,040.00. I called my credit card to dispute this charges...I think that any "doctors" who is doing business this way don't deserve to be called A Doctor-it should be called Dishonest businesman and all his future patients have to know about it. PLEASE DON'T SIGN ANY PAPERS AND NEVER GIVE A "DOCTOR" YOUR CREDIT CARD NUMBER. It's real shame that I have to write this about doctor practice. I don't want anybody to repeat my mistake!
Dr Gertner is a predator he knows that the people who come to him a desperate, that they have exhasted all traditional medical treatments and are willing to try anything at this point, he promises them that he can cure them of anything that ails them and then makes them sign a piece of paper saying that he didn't promise anything.
I called his office to find out how much an office visit was because I was desperate they quoted me 85 dollars that was steep but I could make it work I Was one of the desperate people. They also said there was a one time consult and x-ray fee of 400 dollars. I saved up and went.
He promised me he could fix everything that was wrong with me, cure my pain all of it. It was a 2 hour drive there and back a long trip and very expensive but I had my first adjustment two days later and I felt hope for the very first time. I found out that they didn't take my insurance but at 85 dollars a pop I guess I could make it work. The worst was over the 400 dollars.
I came back and was presented with a treatment plan. 5800 if I paid up front or 6000 if I paid in monthly 375 dollar installments not including todays 85 dollar "office visit fee" I asked if I could just come for some visits the Dr said no it wouldn't work that way I had to come every week 2x a week.
This would cost me almost 200 more in travel every month bringing my monthly cost up to 575 I am on disabilty I get 850 and I pay for where I live and eat and put gas in my car off of that. He didn't care. He said that was it he wouldn't see me.
It was a total scam saying that the appointments were 85 dollars. I would never have spent 400 dollars on xrays because I would have known I could not have bought a treatment plan its a bait and switch totally a scam. Really a ripoff and totally unethical. He lures you in with the 85 dollar line and then gives you the hard sell.
He is completely unethical and cares about nothing but money. Healing and helping mean absolutly nothing to this man. Buyer beware!
Dr. George Gertner AKA Upper CervicalChiropratic of White Plains White Plains New York
I want to describe my experience with this "Doctor" and hope to find others that have been in a similar way.
I should preface this by saying that whatever ails you, Dr. Gertner has a "study" that will show that Upper Cervical treatments will cure it. I had elevated blood pressure and a pinch nerve in the upper cervical spine that was causing me pain and discomfort. Dr. Gertner was able to convince me that his treatments would fix my blood pressure and cure by bulging disc. After allowing over 16 months of treatments, I was convinced that neither was true, at least not for me. I know when people are in pain, they will try anything to alleviate the pain. This Doctor uses this to convince you to sign his form with monthly charges on your credit card. I should warn you to not let him have access to your credit card number, if you decide to find out for yourself. Pay him monthly, but not automatically give him your number.
After agreeing to treatments from Dr. George Gertner of Upper Cervical Chiropractic on August 2011 for $4,280.00, I began to pay him $357.00 monthly. It appears that this was for only 54 treatments per year, although this information was never clearly explained to me nor in the 16 months that I received treatment from him, was I ever notified that I had gone over the allotted treatment number and would begin accruing a bill that would only eventually be revealed to me when I decided to end my treatments. I was hit with a whopping $2,000.00 bill that the "Doctor" "generously" cut in half and billed my credit card nearly $1,000.00 for overage when I stopped.
In all this time, I was under the wrong assumption that the $357.00 per month I was paying was for services rendered during that particular month. The reason I assumed that is because the Doctor would tell me when I should come again. I would ask at the end of each session when I should return and was given the next recommended appointment day. With no regards to my financial situation, this Doctor took advantage of me by having me visit his office twice per week without ever once mentioning that I was over the 54 treatments.
When I finally got an itemized bill when I terminated his services, I was able to count how long it took me to reach 54 visits. I had reached 54 visits within 6 months. So for over 10 months, no one in his office or the Doctor bothered to inform me that I was over the allotted visists. I know now that this information was withheld because had I been told, he would have risked my stopping the treatments sooner. I was strung along so that I would continue to come and pay. I was only a revenue source to this Doctor.
Another reason I felt that the monthly payment of $357.00 was inclusive of each monthly treatment was because the Doctor began to charge $15.00 for missed appointments. Why would he do that, wouldn't he just deduct that from the 54 treatments. So if I missed an appointment, wouldn't I have used up one? With no clear policy anywhere, this Doctor does what he wants and changes the rules as he goes along. The patients are his victims. I know of no other Doctors office that would not want to be paid when due. Have you ever been to a Doctor that did not give you a bill after services?
Why would this particular Doctor not want to get paid right away?? Why would he wait until the end to present the Super Bill?? The answer is because he does not want you to know for fear of losing you as his patient. He may justify this anyway he wants, but it is a disgrace that a licensed professional would be allowed to practice medicine in the State of New York with such deception. The patient puts their trust in a Doctor and in this case it is misguided, because this Doctor is more concerned about money than his patient care.
If you decide to find out for yourself, notice the hard sell and the monthly "meetings" to try and recruit more "patients". Once he even was giving away a huge flat panel television, all in trying to recruit more "victims". I want to send a message to this Doctor in smalls claims court that this unacceptable. If anyone knows of soeone that has been duped by this Doctor in a similar manner, please respond to this report. Thank you.
Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York, PC is a unique holistic healing center. Our staff are all dedicated to giving each patient the personalized care they need in a warm, caring environment. We understand that the vast majority of our patients have already tried every traditional medical procedure to get relief without success. The frustration of not being in control of your health and feel your life slipping away can be debilitating.
After calling and speaking with a warm and friendly assistant, we do our best to get the patient an appointment with one of our qualified doctors in a timely matter. When dealing with many specialists, it can be weeks or months to get an appointment. At UCCNY we have several highly trained doctors on staff, so we are usually able to accommodate most patient within a week.
Because the doctors at UCCNY are trained in the most advanced spinal correction procedures, they are able to give patients quick and long lasting results to some of the most severe and chronic conditions. Unlike most doctors that only treat the symptom of the problem and get temporary relief, our doctors treat the cause and can give many patients permanent relief.
My name is Dr. George Gertner and I am the owner of Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York, PC. I would like to thank you for taking the time to review Upper Cervical Chiropractic. We are able to restore the health to some of the most severe and chronically ill patients from all over the world. Make an appointment with myself, or one of my qualified doctors and see why our personalized service makes us the gold standard of chiropractic care worldwide.
At Upper Cervical Chiropractic of New York, PC we pride ourselves in using the highest quality SERVICE.
We are one of only 200 NUCCA chiropractic offices worldwide. Our doctors are trained to provide relief from even the most chronically ill conditions. The staff is committed to exceptional customer service, and proud of the fact that they are part of the largest NUCCA office in the Northeastern United States.