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report scam| Country | United States |
| State | California |
| City | Culver City |
| Address | 9415 culver blvd #164 |
| Phone | 877-610-3078 |
| Website | http://www.folding-chairs-tables-discount.com/ |
Folding-Chairs-Tables-Discount.com Reviews
3/4/22 - I called the number advertised on the website and a gentleman named Larry answered the phone. I inquired about the folding chairs and tables that were on his website. He asked me what price I saw on his website, and I told him what I saw. He then told me that is an old website and he doesn't have the ability to remove it, and also that the prices aren't accurate and they are now double.
I asked for a quote for 500 white chairs, 24 8ft banquet folding tables, and 48 6ft banquet folding tables and shipping to MA. He explained that the chairs would come on 3 pallets and the tables would also come on 3 pallets.
I said I need lift gate service (since there is no loading dock) and to add that to the quote/invoice. I asked how long it would take to arrive and he said the order would be shipping out the following week (week of March 7th).
After this, communication fell apart. I called and emailed almost daily (sometimes multiple times a day) asking for tracking numbers for the shipments. When I was able to get him (Larry) on the phone, he consistently would tell me he was out and that he would call me back in an hour. This became his go-to answer for every call. He never called back.
I finally got him on the phone and I told him I needed a tracking number ASAP. Days later he got me a tracking number, which was wrong. A delivery eventually showed up on 4/11/22. The delivery driver showed up in a truck, which did not have a lift gate and the bill of lading had lift gate service unchecked (he never even ordered it). On the truck were 2 pallets of 200 chairs. My employees were forced to unload the entire order themselves by hand.
Also on the bill of lading was the shipment origination, which said "Belnick", which is a distributer for an online chair/table company named Bizchair.com. It appears he simply placed a partial order with them for 200 chairs and had them sent to my address.
I called and emailed Larry after explaining that we're missing 300 chairs and 75 tables. He said that's odd, he also said they were definitely shipped and that he would check and get back to me within the hour. He never got back to me.
Since 4/11/22 I have emailed and called almost daily asking for an update. They've stopped returning my calls and emails.
Finally (4/21/22) I opened a case with the Better Business Bureau (case # 1044039) and I sent a final request for update via email. Larry responded at 2:08pm with "Call u in 1 hour", which he never did. My email stated that this would be the last time I personally reach out asking for an update and I gave him until 8pm EST to reply, which he has not.
I then opened a complaint with the FTC (report # 146900069) and reported this to the FBI. I started investigating this and I've actually found a decent amount of info around this individual scamming others with the same scenario, dating as far back as 2011.
One thing is for sure, Larry is not very good at hiding his trail of evidence. Here is a list of URL's that I have found to be associated with Larry Hoffman and this fraudulent activity. Running a broad internet search on his email (he appears to always use the same email address for the most part - [email protected]) pulls up a TON of articles.
Ordered 100 stacking chairs and 17 tables from Larry Hoffman of The Chair Company. I inquired about placing an order on September 28th, 2017, he responded quickly, mailed me a sample of the chair, and then proceeded to call me multiple times a day until I placed the order. (Probably to avoid me finding so many negative reviews in the mean time)
He took a check over the phone for the full amount in mid october, this was his reassurence for faster delivery and to avoid a 3% credit card fee, and then told me to contact him when I was ready for the chair delivery. I set up a delivery date shortly thereafter. It took another month of phone calls and emails. I would call him, he wouldn't answer, but would call me back with an excuse or reason that the chairs were not available. First they were in the New Jersey warehouse, then tennessee, then they were in the Houston warehouse. A refund in full was sked for. I sent him a paypal account to transfer the money into because i read reviews about bounced checks. He then stopped answering altogether for a little while until I called one of his distributors. They were very helpful in getting our order together.
However, when we thought 100 tables and 17 chairs were coming our way from California, we found out through the shipping company that Larry's payment had declined. Larry will email you a bid of laden and shipping papers that look very legit but they are false. You have to call the shipping company to verify it. Best done when larry is on the phone. We finally were able to get part of the order shipped, the 17 tables. I got a call from the shipping company alerting me that larry pulled the chairs from the order. finally got a proper tracking number and 17 tables arrived december 29th, 2017! Now more phone calls ensued to larry and the distributor. Finally, only after a letter from my lawyer, did larry work it out with the distributor to send the 100 chairs. we received them January 19th, 2018, however, we did not recieve the 100 ivory chair cushions. So we are still in it with larry.
We wrote to the California better business bureau. which surprisingly he responded to. He apparently gets his mail at 9415 Culver blvd #164 Culver City, Ca 90232. They really aren't much help in shutting him down , but i recommend you filing officially so your claim can be on record for litigation purposes. His positive reviews are written by him. He is Larry Harvey. Harvey is his middle name.
Please Don't ever buy anything from larry hoffman. he is a scam artist. What legit business has several websites, email address, and phone numbers? He has cost me thousands of dollars by him not sending the chairs on time. I had to cancel or postpone events. Unfortunately, it is not over, I still need the cushions I paid for.
Why isn't there a class action lawsuit again him yet? Contact me if any has started one.
I am an International customer. Ordered 100 Chiavari Chairs and Cushions from Larry on August 25. To date no chairs, no refund. Numerous emails and phone calls from September to now. It is costing me alot because I am not int he United States. Do not know what to do anymore. Website is very deceptive.
Saw very good reviews on website and thought this is legit. NO WAY.
I did a wire transfer to Chase. After that no answer to calls or emails. When I do get him is only promises. To others buyers who are looking to order from ths company. It is a scam. I need my money back. The chairs is of no use to me now.